Nathan Kennedy, reminds us to stay open-minded and consider future possibilities

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Recently, Rebeccah Silence, host of the Tougher Together Breakthrough podcast, welcomed Dr. Nathan Kennedy to sit with her. They talked about what breakthrough means to him and heard his views on healing. This exciting conversation turned to a discussion of possibilities, resiliency, and being willing to think outside the box!

Dr. Kennedy makes the observation that people only look for stuff if they think it’s there. Many people will tell you that something is impossible, but they have never tried it or explored the idea. We learn more from trying things that most people are not doing.

Some of the best ways to learn or approach something from a different angle come from meeting people. Instead of asking about their accreditation, ask the question, “Can you help me?” Another way of gathering information seems obvious but is often overlooked.

Increase your general and specific knowledge by reading and learning about different types of subjects… Learn Everything you Can! Sometimes a possibility will reveal itself from an unexpected source. Dr. Kennedy reminds us that “Learning Leads to Breakthrough.”
Healing starts with emotions and beliefs. Be open-minded, try new things, and stick with them.

Your feelings and thoughts can prevent you or encourage you… depending on how you feel and what you believe. Let your experience form your beliefs, instead of what you hear from others. The benefit of breakdown is that it forces you to change your thinking.

If you are interested in learning more about Dr. Nathan Kennedy, and you should, you can find out more about him on his website. We’re always Tougher Together! Please tune in to other episodes of our Breakthrough podcast and explore the human connection between us.

Rebeccah Silence, is a speaker, coach and international media personality, who survived cancer while pregnant and has impacted hundreds of thousands of listeners through her radio programs and appearances. She is the Creator of the HEALING IS POSSIBLE movement and courses and is committed to helping others heal their traumas. As a certified world-class Emotional Healing Coach, Rebeccah is uniquely qualified to facilitate breakthroughs to wellness and transformation while she inspires hope and possibility in even the most challenging times. She is best known for healing heartbreak, and her clients frequently tell her that she brought them “back to life”!


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Rebeccah [00:01:50] Today, we are bringing in someone very special to me, Dr. Nathan Kennedy, who quite literally helped me walk again when I was told I never could. And not only that, after cancer, chemotherapy, nerve damage, my legs healed, and skiing and jumping around my house, doing boot camps every day. And I attribute that so much to my work with Dr. Kennedy. So, we are honored to have him on the show. Dr. Kennedy, welcome.

Nathan [00:02:21] Thanks so much. Good to be here.

Rebeccah [00:02:23] It’s so exciting to have you. Tell us, what breakthrough is Dr. Kennedy? How do people do it?

Nathan [00:02:34] So I think it’s a loaded question, but in general, I think it’s getting enough inertia in the right direction to sustain positive momentum in that area, you know, and I think for me, it’s about a five-minute answer that I don’t know if I could sum down, but it’s you know, I think for me it’s examples like, for me, I saw a lot of amazing things happen in my life. And that catapulted me into the future of possibility by having examples of seeing people get cured of diseases or get better. It made me think like, well, what else is possible? You know? And I think that’s a big part, at least to my arena, is building that belief is a big part of getting you to actually follow through and learn new things. That would be one of the things I would say about it.

Rebeccah [00:03:21] What else?

Nathan [00:03:23] So I would say that you have to have a fairly open mind that things are possible. I think what happens to a lot of people is they think, well, I’ve tried like 10 things and that didn’t work. So, it must not be possible. You know? In my journey, I met a lot of people. I had a thing happen to me when I was a kid. And I traveled around the world meeting people, France, Mexico and people from Canada and doctors. And I actually spent so much of my own money to meet these people that I was actually homeless, living in the woods up and outside of Denver. And I remember thinking one time, am I going to meet this doctor or am I going to get a hotel? And I actually met the doctor instead. And I just kept learning and learning and learning and trying to get new information. And I think it’s the resiliency to keep going forward that builds success. And you have to kind of think, like, OK, yeah, there’s got to be a way you have to have. I think a big part of it is belief. You have to know that it’s actually possible. I think that’s one of the things I see with you, is that you invoke courage in people and belief and get some drive in for it. And I think people only look for stuff if they believe it’s there, you know, like if someone didn’t think there was gold somewhere and you told them there was gold there, if they didn’t believe it’s there, they’d never go get it. And I think the same thing is true with… At least in my journey, I constantly just had this learning drive to try to find things. And I think that’s where it starts, at least for me, it’s starting with initiating the belief that there are more things out there than just what we’ve experienced, you know.

Rebeccah [00:05:05] Will you tell us about some of the breakthroughs that you’ve seen, some of the miracles that you’ve witnessed and been a part of?

Nathan [00:05:14] Yeah, so there’s quite a few. So, I’ll just start talking and say like, you know, when I was… I would say I went through a lot of schooling and I kept thinking that I would learn something in school, that they would teach me something. And I remember one time I was asking… I was going to go for my board exams and there was a guy in one of the board training seminars that actually ran the boards. And I asked that guy if he could fix my back or something. And he was in charge of the boards across the whole country. And that guy was probably the least effective doctor I ever met in my life. But he was in charge of everything. And it kind of made me think like, you know, who do you listen to? What do you do? That kind of stuff. And it kind of made me realize, after I spent a lot of years in school studying and studying, I went to a lot of different stuff. And it was actually when I started meeting people that just were like a little bit different. They were outside the box. I think a lot of people think they want to know what someone’s degree is in, but they don’t want to know, like, how successful they are. They don’t want to know how good are you at actually healing someone like I see it all the time that say, you know, what’s your degree in? And they should really be asking, like, can you help me? And so, I started studying very random, strange people, and bizarre things. And I found people that were really, really, like outrageously successful. And it was weird that—maybe you know this and it’s like a lot of people in psychology know this—that a lot of breakthrough inventions come from people outside of their field. And I think that’s because, you know, they have a different way of looking at things. And the more I learned other things, like I read books on gardening, I read books about music, actually, I read books on physics. And the more I expanded in those areas, I started to get my breakthroughs. I remember a couple of people that did things and one of the first experiences I had, I met this nutritionist doctor in Houston, and there was a lady that had a scar in her heart, and she always wore these high shirts like turtleneck shirts because she was embarrassed of the scar, and one of the first things I experienced is within about a few months, the scar disappeared off that lady’s chest with nutrition. And it blew my mind. And then I found out that this guy was, you know, if I can say and it’s always a legal thing, but he had a really high success rate in treating people that had cancer. We also saw my wife’s mother’s dog sitter had a terminal case of leukemia. And in, I think in about one month, he was back into remission. And I saw that and then I’ve seen a lot of things psychologically. I’ve had a lot of treatments on myself that were done. I’ve seen people that haven’t moved their arms in 3-5 years and within 10-15 minutes, they’re moving their arm. And I think those breakthroughs in those arenas allow the possibility to exist, that there is more. And I think a lot of people are caught up in these ideas that all that exists is like, you know, what I’m currently seeing, what my doctor told me. There are a lot of people in the world that are incredible. There are a lot of people out there doing amazing things. And I think, examples of breakthroughs I have so many, I can’t even think of like one to give you. But I think of another lady that, you know, she had a lung condition. She actually was written up in a book and she had four weeks to live, and that was seven years ago, you know, and she’s actually completely fine now. And these cases do exist. They’re out there, you know, and I think it’s so many like that that I’ve seen I can’t even begin to tell you. But in my life, there’s been one after the other, after the other, after the other and I think it’s partially because, you know, you’re open to it. But, you know, that’s the short answer to that. I would say there’s so many I just can’t even begin to tell you on. So, yeah.

Nathan [00:09:24] How much of breakthrough is emotional, physical, spiritual? I mean, when you’re telling these stories and I’ve experienced it myself in your office actually, but how much of it has to do with the body and how much of it has to do with just that belief like you’re talking about?

Nathan [00:09:45] So I have my own philosophies from things I’ve seen. One thing I don’t want to portray is that I would be the absolute authority in this, but I do think that there are electrical charges in our thoughts, you know, and we know that when neurons fire up, there’s electrical activity that occurs in that charge. And, you know, our body, our muscles are controlled by electrical impulses. So, we know, like, if someone gets shocked, we know their muscle gets stronger or twitches, that kind of thing. We also know that when people have different thoughts, the electrical rhythms of their brain are different. Something that I also think is that on an emotional level, our thoughts might be one of the initial pieces. One of the reasons I try to get people so moved and emotional when they come in is because I think that’s where it initiates from. I think there’s something in physics called Somatics. I wish I had some pictures up, but it’s when, you know, sound form shapes and sand and, you know, you have Chladni plates and stuff. And that shape is actually a frequency. And I hold the belief that the reason liver cells are the shape they are, the reason pancreas cells are the shape they are, is because of the frequency that the body’s generating around that area. And so, I think that when we make thoughts and beliefs, they actually form frequencies around our cells. And I think that’s provable in physics. I think we can prove that is that our beliefs and our ideas change the vibration of our cells, and if a cell loses its vibrational rate it goes into disease. And so, the breakthrough has to start, I think, with the initial thing. I think you can push someone where basically they get healthy enough, where they wake up. But I do think a lot of healing starts with belief. I really do think it starts with emotions. And I think the electricity of the brain changes those vibrations based on what you’re thinking about. And I do think in the next 50, 100 years, we’re going to prove that. But I think, you know, if I can say this, there’s things like Tummo meditation. I study Wim Hof a little bit. And they show that if you think a certain way, you could change your body temperature, you know, you could change the way your thyroid works. And so, it has to have some level of fact based on your beliefs. So, I actually think it’s a lot of emotions first. But I do think people can be pushed to heal. But to sustain the healing, I do think it’s a big part of emotional functioning, in my opinion. Yeah.

Rebeccah [00:12:17] What would you say to someone who’s in a real physical pain and just isn’t believing that their body would have the capacity to have a breakthrough like one that you’re talking about?

Nathan [00:12:30] So I would say they need to get out there and they need to meet people. They need to lose the beliefs that only a certain type of person can heal me. They need to drop the ideas that if someone hasn’t been able to help them doesn’t mean there’s anyone out there that can help them. A lot of people I’ve seen that have been in those states… When I started—it’s a funny story. I used to be in a place called Cherry Creek, and I had a little… it was a… there was a Steve Martin movie about this, where the guy pointed at things on the shelf and said, you can pick anything in this area. And I used to tell people, I said, you get anything on the shelf for free if you don’t get healed. You know? And I had to beg them to come in and get treated because there was so much belief that they couldn’t heal. And I still remember to this day that this lady wouldn’t let me treat her. And it’s OK. I think people have a decision, but there’s so much energy going that people think, well, I have gone this medical route, or this way and they haven’t been able to help me. So, it must not be possible. I think getting new information and getting out there, you know, and I’ll be honest, I probably saw 5-10% of the people that I met were truly incredible. But I thought to myself, if I saw five people out of 100, I got five percent. I got five people here and I got some data I could go at. I’m not going to say it’s easy, but you have to constantly push and try things and be open minded. And when you start to see that change is possible, that’s when they start to wake up and they break through and they find out how this is possible. But they got to… I think with me and my arena, I’ve had to show them it’s possible. And then they start waking up and then the catapults, other areas of their life, like relationships and other things, too. So, yeah, I think getting examples, watching videos, you know, I sent people on like YouTube or something; I said just watch a few people that had miracles. Go talk to people that had miracles and start to get in that energy so that they start to think, well, maybe it’s true. And then it opens up the idea to try it. So that’s what I would say about it.

Rebeccah [00:14:39] What is a miracle?

Nathan [00:14:42] So there was a good guy that I studied for a while, I never met him, but his name was Dr. Carrick, and he was one of the most amazing neurologists. And I indirectly studied this guy. I actually never had the money to go to his seminars, but I studied every piece of work I could find. And he was on 60 Minutes once for curing all these people, and he said a miracle is something that—if I remember his words right—he said a miracle is something that only happens once in a while. He said when something starts to happen consistently time and time again, it’s just something that works. So, I think there’s a shift in physiology here where, in our mind, almost when we think of miracles, we think of something that’s very rare and unusual. When we put gas in a car and push the gas pedal and it runs every time, it’s actually a miracle. But because we’re so used to, it is now normal. So, to me, my goal would be to say that miracles are something—that I think everybody should start to become aware of—with the possibility of becoming something that’s normal and consistently works. That’s how I would place it.

Rebeccah [00:15:49] I love that answer. And I don’t know how many times you’ve said to me, oh, the worst thing that could happen is you just get happier, you just get healthier, you get more healed. And I love that. Tell us, tell our listeners, you know, either a story or something that helps them understand what I’m talking about when I say that.

Nathan [00:16:10] So in my opinion, one of the great people I met, his name was Dr. Bandler, and a lot of people know him. He was the guy that started NLP. But when I met him in person, he was really ahead of everybody else I ever took seminars from. It was quite amazing. And he told me something, and one of the reasons I say that stuff is, he said, you know, language is something that happens unconsciously, you know, you’re not looking up every word that I say. You’re not looking at a dictionary to say, what does “say” mean? What does this mean? And since language is occurring unconsciously in each person, it’s actually a form of hypnosis. And so basically the reason I say things is, I think that in my opinion, what we talk about unconsciously, since it’s happening on an unconscious level, is actually affecting us almost hypnotically. So, I think the words we say to some degree actually start to program us. And I think that’s evident by like just by what someone talks about. You’ll notice you start to feel that way. And I think that some of the programing, but also the reason I say that stuff, also with you, is like when someone lifts their leg and they couldn’t lift it again, they’re in a state of possibility. And in that state of possibility, since language, in my opinion, is an unconscious process I want to feed suggestions that are open to the state of mind of possibility when positive change is happening drastically. So, you know, like if someone’s like, I can walk now, you know, I’m going to be like, well, maybe you’re just going to get happy. And they’re like, they always go, what? And it’s like, well, I’m trying to slide a few things in there at the same time since that channel is starting to open, you know. And I think, in my opinion, when you hit someone with everything, you’ve got to get them better. You know, like basically you don’t just want to be like, well, I know these couple of things to help your back, you know. So, like, if I can tell you something, if I can feed you something, if I can play some goofy music in the background… like, I don’t care what it is; like, I’m going to throw the kitchen sink at this person and try to get them better. So, I think I look for in people pupillary dilation. Sometimes when they’re in a state of like, oh, I’m getting better, and when that state opens, to try to throw words out, to associate into that thing, to try to get them to be like, boom, boom, boom, you know, and it’s almost like you got a, you know, a canon of healing and you’ve just blown it at them at the right opportunity, you know. So that’s a short answer on that I would say.

Rebeccah [00:18:45] I love it. What do you want people to know about breakthrough and the power of their capacity to create breakthrough for themselves?

Nathan [00:18:57] Yeah, so I think, again, you got to get examples. A lot of people, from what I’ve studied of neurology and the brain, I think a lot of humanity likes to do things like other people because it’s like a herd mentality, you know, like a deer is safer in a group than it would be by itself. So we have to kind of break out of the idea that, you know, I’m just going to do what everybody else does because I’m safe. And I think on an unconscious level—and I’m not an expert on this, you might know more than I know about it. But it almost seems like people sometimes are not willing to play outside of the box a little bit. You know? Like they want to keep it safe. And, you know, they’re like, I don’t want to meet this person. I won’t talk to that person. I don’t want to do this. But the thing that I consistently do is I read a study like the one I’m on right now is Tummo meditation from a Harvard study where people raise their body temperature by 17 degrees. And I think the guy’s name was Herbert Benson from Harvard that did the study. And the reason I think that’s important, I show that to people, is because you actually can do that. And so, once you raise your body temperature… I was outside—we had a snowstorm today—and I was outside for about 30 minutes in a t-shirt. And I think it was 15 degrees out. And I was laughing to myself, like, how come I didn’t learn this in school? You know, like this is the coolest thing ever. And when we get those examples, like, you know, people told me this wasn’t possible, and it is. And then you go, well, what else is possible that people told me it isn’t? Because I think we have a set of examples that makes us think we know what reality is. And we have a set of programs that a lot of us run that think, you know, this is what reality is, this is what’s possible. And I would just say I want people to know: You really have to get out there and try things and stick with them and try to experience stuff. The thing I sent you an email earlier, was the story I heard about Henry Ford was that he was trying to build a V8 Motor and everybody told him, you can’t do that. There’s no way you can do it. And the thing was, how I heard it was, he went out and fired everybody that said that didn’t think you could do it. And he hired everybody, even people that didn’t know what a motor was, it’s like you’re hired. You know? And what he knew was, he knew, I think, more about creativity than the rest of the world, because he knew that the thing that was preventing people from learning how to build a V8 motor was they already decided that they couldn’t do it. And a lot of people have already decided that they can’t do this, or they can’t do that. And I think it was very, very quickly, as soon as he changed all the people around and just told them to just do it. They ended up doing it. And what I would love to see, just to help people out on a breakthrough, like if… You know, if I had a research and development company, I would hire all the people that believed you could go faster than the speed of light. I would hire all the people that didn’t believe in any of the laws of physics. I would throw them all out the window and I would see within a few months how many amazing events we would start to discover. And it’s really… that is an obvious thing in physics that I always read about, is that as soon as a new invention comes out or a breakthrough study, then everybody starts inventing something new. And it’s like, why would you wait for somebody to decide and tell you that this law in physics wasn’t true? Like, for example, the law of thermodynamics, that you can’t create energy. That’s starting to be dismantled. They’re starting to show that you actually can create energy. And so now all these amazing inventions are going to start coming out, and I think the reason they’re starting to come out is because people are like, well, OK, that wasn’t true; so now I can do this. And it’s like you could have done it the whole time. Your beliefs and ideas prevented you from trying something new because someone taught you in school that there’s a law of thermodynamics. And when I was in school, I remember taking a test and it said the earth is the only place that there’s water on. And if you hadn’t marked it true, you got a wrong mark on it, you know. And I was thinking in my head at the time, I said, how the heck do they know that there is no water way out in the universe? We don’t even have machines that get out there. And the truth is, you don’t know what’s possible because there’s no way to prove that it isn’t possible. And that’s the case, like the law of thermodynamics is based on what we currently know. And as more and more stuff comes out, we find out, oh, were not true… medicine, physics. I would say probably even… I mean, I don’t study a lot of psychology, but you might see this, too, that we have a very bad track record of telling people what’s possible, and it’s almost never the case. Like every hundred years we find out almost everything we told people wasn’t true. So, I would say, why would you ever wait to change your life? Why would you make someone think that, you know, you can’t become motivated, you can’t become successful, you can’t get a breakthrough because somebody in school… Or if I can say this, I remember the psychology teacher had an undergrad; she was very limited in her beliefs, and basically I thought that’s not that good to teach people. So, people are taught this stuff. They say, well, I learned it in school, that I’m just the way I am because of my parents. And it’s like, what a disservice that someone did to teach that. And it’s not that. A lot of people believe what they’re told. And I guess the last thing I would say is that in our world, how we’re raised, we’re raised to learn by what people tell us. So, like when we go to school, if we learn how to build like, you know, a car or we learn how to make dresses or something… a lot of times our education is based on what people tell us. It’s not based on experiences. And so basically, like if I was to tell you how to raise a horse and you raise the horse, you’d be way better at raising a horse because you actually did it. But if I taught you how to raise a horse by studying a book and you never even met a horse in your life, you wouldn’t be as good. So, what I think this does is a lot of us are in this trance of, my beliefs are based on what people tell me rather than experiences. And so basically, when we start to become more experimental based, like, well, is this true? Is that not true? Like, can I change? Can I not change? It shifts us. And I think a lot of us have been taught that through educational systems and stuff, because it’s just you can’t teach 5,000 kids by experience. It’s just not possible. I mean, that’s just the world I guess we live in. I mean, maybe you could, but it’s hard to do. So, I’m not blaming the educational system, but I think one of the shifts that has to occur is we have to really look at things like, you know, is someone able to heal me or not? Is this person helping me or not? And not just because I was told that this will help me, and it doesn’t help me. Do I keep doing it? You should think experimentally, like, if this doesn’t work, I’m going to do something else and I’m going to keep looking for the success until I find it, because I’m not just going to believe what someone tells me; I’m going to do based on experience. So that’s my short answer on that.

Rebeccah [00:26:18] I love that. Think experimentally. I want to hear your perspective on the power of breakdown now that you’ve been so supportive of the breakthrough.

Nathan [00:26:31] Yeah. So, breakdown. Is that what you said?

Rebeccah [00:26:33] Yeah.

Nathan [00:26:34] OK, so…

Rebeccah [00:26:36] What’s the power of a breakdown? What’s the purpose of a breakdown? Is there…

Nathan [00:26:39] You mean like emotionally or…

Rebeccah [00:26:42] Well, like that moment of, I see it as like a fork in the road that we all end up at, you know, one path is defeat; one path is I’m committing to the other side. Is there power in the moments of suffering or in the moments of breakdown or what would you say a breakdown is?

Nathan [00:27:01] Yeah, I mean, so, yeah, I think… I think how I think, you know, I think a lot in neurology and electrical functioning and frequencies and stuff. So, I think a breakdown is an overstimulation of electrical activity so that over-electrical activity can break circuits. So basically, how I view the world is, sometimes if you get more electricity in a circuit, it’s busted; like it breaks the thing because it can’t handle the current. And so, there’s an opportunity there that when a circuit gets dismantled, you can put it back together in ways that you might not have been able to see before. But also, I think people reach certain points where they have to decide, like, am I going to change or am I going to shift? Am I going to do something? And there’s a real nice guy that I used to know that was a biochemist in Austin, and he said, you know, if people aren’t willing to change, they’re not sick enough yet. And I think in my opinion, I think breakdowns aren’t necessary, but they do provide an opportunity. I think if we were all very, very strong, we could shift things before that potential. But I do think breakdowns also allow for an opportunity to start to be open to more ideas, like, you know, if we’re laying on the road and you haven’t had a drink of water in five days, you might take that water from anybody. You know, you’re like, I’ll drink out of the dirty puddle. I just want to survive, you know? And so basically, we start to just have to shift, I think, in that state. So, I think that it can provide an opportunity of just like, I got to move; I got to do something. I would hope that most people would have ideas ahead of time as to what to do. Like, I think some people are… they don’t know what to do, like if they had a breakdown. But I think giving the world, giving possibilities to people ahead of time and telling stories about things, I think also is an important part of that. Like, people who break down are like, what do I do now? But maybe if they were around someone that had the same thing happen and they said, well, you know, this happened to me, and all of a sudden I realized, like, you know, hey, you know, I can do this, I can do that. I think that helps. So, I think that’s a hard question for me to answer. But I think it’s… If forces change, I would say for sure—and you know, I studied, if I can say this, I studied, you know, hypnosis. I actually studied brainwashing and stuff like that, and the reason that I’m in it, from what I understand, brainwashing programs people, is because it induced suffering. And so basically hypnosis uses relaxation because it allows a choice of the suggestion from what I’ve seen. So, these seem like cults and stuff that make people dress a certain way. They’ll starve them. They’ll give them nothing to eat. You know, they’ll make them do certain things that are different. And I think the purpose of that is, is when the body goes into a breakdown, it starts to become hyper suggestible, almost to a dangerous level. And I think it’s important that if there is a breakdown, that the right type of help is there, because I think that’s when people start to change their personalities. I think we know from people that had trauma that those are some of the life changing events that occur in people. And so, the breakdown process, I think, is something that I would hope humanity starts to catch before it happens. But if it’s already happened, there’s programing, I think, that occurs there that should be heavily shifted and provides an interesting opportunity. If I can say that. Yeah.

Rebeccah [00:30:56] Absolutely. Love your answer. And I think we don’t need to hit some trauma crisis or bottom to step into the tougher, stronger, more resilient parts of ourselves. And… Dr. Kennedy, I’d love it if you would give our listeners homework. What homework would you invite us all to do?

Nathan [00:31:17] Yeah, so I would say the homework would be… You know, to spend some time with people that are incredible. I would encourage people to read books that they’ve never read about before. So, like, the most intelligent people I ever met in my life, they didn’t study one thing like one of the physicists I met, he was always trying to go to the library and find a book that he’s never read in his entire life. And he said, you know, after 20 years, this is getting hard to do. And I said, why are you doing that? He said, because I have to constantly expand how my neurons work. And I think that we also have to, find, you know, try to open up to possibilities and to think way outside the box. I think the way that humanity’s going to progress, you know, we always use an example of a jet plane, a cell phone. Someone had to have the wild idea to try that, you know. And I think the more people that start to get outside the box and thinking and we need to know that it’s safe, it’s good, I think the more potential the world is going to have. You know, I did some research in Florida, Senior Research Project University. It was actually on plants that I worked with a genetics teacher there. And it was funny. I remember the guys that were doing the genetics research, they actually all drove the same car, you know, and they actually dressed the same way; they acted the same; they hung out. They actually ,like, they were so shockingly similar, it was unbelievable. And I kept thinking to myself, how are these people going to find new ideas? You know, like and I think that’s the thing that also exists in our brain, is that the systems in our body are kind of working the same way. They’re thinking the same thing. They’re working on the same arena, and no one’s getting any new ideas in there. So, by maybe traveling somewhere new or meeting the new people and reading a book you’ve never thought about and meeting people that have cured cancer, you know, and unbiasedly listening to them, and dreaming beyond wild imagination, because the truth is, we have a horrible track record of telling people what’s true. We always find out it’s not true. So, we need to find… We need to dream wildly and actually try the craziest, wildest stuff, with morality I would say, you know, like… The example I would leave you with as a scientist would be I always hear people say, you know, I ask them sometimes for fun. I was doing this thing. I said, can you do telekinesis? And I said, I don’t know if you can do telekinesis, but I would ask people. And almost everybody would say no. And then I would ask them, I would say, how long have you tried to do it? And most people said, I never tried. You know, and it’s kind of like that in our brain is that we don’t know if it’s possible, like in most… I wouldn’t say, like I would rather listen to an answer from someone about that that actually did it for like three hours a day for five years, and find out if they did it rather than have someone decide in their brain, you know, that they did it for never like two seconds in their life. And they already decided if it’s true or not. You know, so we have to dream a little bit; we have to try; we have to push reality and we have to really see what’s possible out there. And that’s the thoughts I would leave them with, is the homework is to dream a little bit to, you know, encourage people to be as creative as they can, with morality, and just know that, you know, like people don’t learn how to play a piano in two minutes. So, if you try something and you’re not good at it, then that doesn’t mean you’re not going to be able to do it. It’s funny. Like ,we all believe we can play a piano because someone gave us that example. But if someone… It would be unbelievable if we had a million pianos in the world and everybody decided they must not be able to play music because they tried it for two minutes, you know, and they said, well, it’s not possible. I think if people stick to things, I think as the world goes on in the next 100 or 200 years, we’re going to find out that there’s way more things that are possible than we ever dreamed. You know? And I would just encourage people to dream about that, to work with that. And if you’re trying something just to… wild as it might be just stick with it for a while and see. You never know what you’re going to discover. You know? So that would be the homework I would give.

Rebeccah [00:36:03] So good. It brings tears to my eyes hearing you share that. And you, quite honestly, are a dream come true in my life. I feel like I dreamed of the type of support and holistic support that you’ve provided me. I can’t thank you enough. How do people find you?

Nathan [00:36:21] Oh, so we’re in Wheat Ridge Colorado. We have a website. It’s I have a nutritional website. It’s Our phone number in the office is 303-322-5015. So, you know, we’re there. My name is Nathan Kennedy. I’m sure that’ll be on there. But I’d say that’s a good, good start. You know, they would find me.

Rebeccah [00:36:55] Thank you so much, Dr. Kennedy. This is Rebeccah Silence with the Tougher Together Breakthrough podcast. No matter the circumstance, you’re tougher, you’re stronger, and possibilities and miracles are waiting for you to find them.

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